Trump’s Surreal Interview With John Dickerson.

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President Trump sat down for . The interview included Trump rudely telling Dickerson that he called Dickerson’s show “Deface the Nation.”

The interview went from bizarre to surreal when the subject of Trump’s claim that Obama wiretapped his phones came up prompting Trump to abruptly end the interview. Trump twice said “you can figure that out yourself” and bizarrely says “I don’t stand by anything.” Here’s that portion of the transcript.

JOHN DICKERSON: Did President Obama give you any advice that was helpful? That you think, wow, he really was —

DONALD TRUMP: — Well, he was very nice to me. But after that, we’ve had some difficulties. So it doesn’t matter. You know, words are less important to me than deeds. And you — you saw what happened with surveillance. And everybody saw what happened with surveillance —

JOHN DICKERSON: Difficulties how?

PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: — and I thought that — well, you saw what happened with surveillance. And I think that was inappropriate, but that’s the way —

JOHN DICKERSON: What does that mean, sir?

PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: You can figure that out yourself.

JOHN DICKERSON: Well, I — the reason I ask is you said he was — you called him “sick and bad”.

PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: Look, you can figure it out yourself. He was very nice to me with words, but — and when I was with him — but after that, there has been no relationship.

JOHN DICKERSON: But you stand by that claim about him?

PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: I don’t stand by anything. I just — you can take it the way you want. I think our side’s been proven very strongly. And everybody’s talking about it. And frankly it should be discussed. I think that is a very big surveillance of our citizens. I think it’s a very big topic. And it’s a topic that should be number one. And we should find out what the hell is going on.

JOHN DICKERSON: I just wanted to find out, though. You’re — you’re the president of the United States. You said he was “sick and bad” because he had tapped you — I’m just —

PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: You can take — any way. You can take it any way you want.

JOHN DICKERSON: But I’m asking you. Because you don’t want it to be —


JOHN DICKERSON: — fake news. I want to hear it from —

PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: You don’t have to —

JOHN DICKERSON: — President Trump.

PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: — ask me. You don’t have to ask me.


PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: Because I have my own opinions. You can have your own opinions.

JOHN DICKERSON: But I want to know your opinions. You’re the president of the United States.

PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: Okay, it’s enough. Thank you. Thank you very much.

The President then dismissively walks away from Dickerson, sits down at his desk, and quite obviously pretends to read some papers sitting on it. Watch the video.

That is a man who knows he is wrong but lacks the character to admit it.

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Retired lawyer & Army vet in The Villages of Florida. Lifelong: Republican (pre-Trump), Constitution buff, science nerd & dog lover. Twitter: @KeithDB80

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